Jane Roberts

Jane Roberts 'channeled' Seth from 1964 to 1984. She lived in New York with her husband Robert F. Butts an artist. He wrote down the material Seth and Jane brought through. Because of unique relationship she had with Seth and his ability to keep the channel clean and clear, they were able to bring through some of the clearest spiritual information I've ever come across and so I highly recommend it.

Robert F. Butts painting of Seth

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SETH on the Materialization of Matter

Since any materialization is in effect a mediation between what we may call an ideal which is, by nature, of itself not materialized, and a practical working perceivable symbol of the ideal, each materialization must be composed of some camouflage elements. Within the physical field these perceivable symbols are composed of matter, which is a conglomeration of atoms and molecules. Each individual, creating, say, his version of any given chair, uses entirely different atoms and molecules in his subconscious construction of it.

He sees or perceives only his own construction. A rereading of sessions dealing with the nature of matter will help you here. The chair created then by any given individual, and perceived by him, is an identity in that it exists at any given time, without any exact duplication. Basically, for any duplication to appear, the exact atoms and molecules would have to be used, and this is obviously impossible.

SETH on Negative Expectations

It is your duty, and the duty of every individual insofar as it is within his power, to maintain his own psychic health and vitality; according to the strength of this vitality he will protect himself and others. Negative expectations, far from protecting either the individual or those with whom he comes in contact, will actually, to a greater or lesser degree, turn as destructive as any epidemic.

SETH - JOY is the 'Muscle' of Action

Such newspapers as you read do a definite service, that should not be overlooked or thoughtlessly condemned.
They definitely open the eyes of many who would otherwise pay no attention. Particularly in the race question they have performed a great psychic service, for they have aroused deep, creative, constructive emotions on the part of the people who otherwise would not have been involved and these constructive energies which have helped change the situation for the better.
Such dire conditions cannot be pretended out of human existence, nor should they be. But in your case you are aware of man’s inhumanity to man. It is well that you are, but you must not allow this knowledge to weigh like a mountain upon your being, so that you are pinned under and your energies sucked away. This is a danger for which you must be alerted.

When valid concern for world problems turns into an obsession with world injustices that wipes out all, or threatens to wipe out all personal enjoyment, then trouble is on the way. For enjoyment is a weapon. The man who is capable of joy is capable, to a large extent, of changing his world. Joy is not a weak spineless idiot either. Its backbone is stronger than bitterness.

Joy is the muscle of action, and without it there would be no action. If I speak strongly to you at times, it is because this tendency, while much less now than formerly, must be kept very well in control, Joseph. Basically this concern for human welfare is indeed virtuous, but overindulged in it becomes loaded with possibilities that could be most unfortunate. You knew I was going to light into you this evening, as Ruburt would say. What I want, there, is the balance. Neither plunge yourself into the ignorance, doubts and injustices, so that you can see nothing else, nor close your eyes to them. But there must be a place within you where these do not exist, or the freedom of the inner self will be hampered, as far as its connection with the ego is concerned. Your deep consideration of human problems has indeed helped lead you to these sessions.

SETH - Basically there is no evil action

From The Early Sessions, pg. 324

Basically, all action is. Basically there is no evil action. All is unfolding. With the limited perception that the ego has itself adopted, the whole is not visible, and it sees what it will see. Within your field, within your moral field, you must indeed strike out against that which appears evil to you.

This is a responsibility laid upon you by the code of limitations which the ego itself has adopted as part of its own nature. You may find it most difficult to follow here without any strong affirmation. However, as you do not blame, as you do not morally blame the wind for the tumultuous hurricane, and as you do not punish the wind, so you must somehow manage to understand that a wrong doer, in your eyes, is no more or less to blame than this. It would be foolhardy to ignore the results of such activity. Nevertheless I tell you now that there is much you do not see or know.

You see perhaps havoc within the physical field and this is indeed to be faced and dealt with, and set straight, as aid is to be given the victims of a hurricane. But you are familiar only with the results of action as they appear within the physical field, as long as you insist upon viewing your physical universe with the eyes of the ego-self; for the ego-self attempts to cut itself off from the action of which it is a part, and in so attempting it loses contact with this larger reality.

The loss of contact applies only to the ego. It does not apply to the other portions of the self, and it is through the inner self, through inner consciousness, that to some degree the nature of action can make itself known. That which you call evil represents a falling short of value fulfillment in a particular, or in any particular, case. There are always, as I believe you realize, those who court injustice and persecution. There are always those who persecute. There are those who murder, and there are those who seek to be slain.

They seek each other out for many complicated reasons. This whole subject is difficult but I will not simplify matters, as I could. I would prefer to discuss it most thoroughly. Nothing here must ever be taken as a justification for evil, in humanity’s terms. For many practical reasons at this point, and please underline at this point, it is necessary that man fight against what he considers evil, for he strengthens himself immeasureably by so doing.

It is also true however, in a completely different framework, that evil is of his own creation, at least evil as he thinks of it. And if a crime is to be assigned I humanity’s terms, often the victim is as guilty as the murderer, in basic terms, in terms of guilt that no court can weigh.

We all have our roles. As we exist within various fields we focus upon these roles to the exclusion of much else.

That part of us as you know which deals with these roles is the ego, which lives intimately the role which was assigned to it by the whole self of which it is a part.

The inner self, feeling itself part of action, is aware of facets of reality of which it the ego is ignorant. It knows that roles can be reversed. There is so much here to be explained, and so many questions that must be answered. For I tell you, at the risk of being misunderstood grossly, that there is only one reality, and value fulfillment, which you may, if you like, equate with goodness.

There is no such thing as evil, except for that phantoms which man has made. He sees hate in his own heart, what he calls hate, which is but fear, so he projects it into another man’s face and says the man hates him; and he may slay the man. But the hate never existed, that is, what mankind thinks of as hate never existed.

Hatred is unreasoning fear. Fear is caused by lack of understanding, by a lack of value fulfillment. Hate is that which is not love. Love is fulfilled, or fulfilling, value fulfillment. It is action that knows itself, and that glorifies in its parts, that is separated to know itself and in knowing itself is not longer separated.

Hate is that which fears to join, and thence is separate, and that is all.

If all men could learn to love, in terms of which I have spoken, then there would be no need for any kind of punishment within your field, and the word would vanish from your vocabulary. The subconscious is not the cause of or the carrier of hatreds.

The difficulty here is of an ego’s refusal to assimilate subconscious experience.

SETH on 'Old Age'.

The physical symptoms of old age are the physical manifestations of fear in the tissues.
There is no reason why you, or any man, should not be strong and vital until death.

SETH - on Emotions

You know by now that emotions even change the physical cells, sweeping through the as wind through branches, and leaving imprint in many realities, leaving imprints within the reality of dreams, the physical reality, and in electrical reality, in terms of coded systems.

There should be an easy flow and acceptance of such emotions, wherein they come and go; but ego often holds them tightly, for its own purposes, in which case they become imprisoned, and become stronger than they were. The origin of emotions is something what we still have to discuss, for t there are many origins.

Some emotions originate within the personality, but others are simply like winds that are then rationalized and held. Emotions are indeed motion, and not static, and will pass to be replaced by others, unless the ego holds them back.

Emotions also are electrically coded, and also have an independent electrical reality. On a physical level they are both chemical and electrical. The validity and strength of emotions cannot be overestimated, for they represent in only slightly tinged form the uncamouflaged vitality of the universe as it passes through the inner self. Emotions represent, therefore, this vitality before it has been constructed into camouflage.

It has been tinged psychologically in its entry through the subconscious, but that is all. Emotions are the most vital tools with which you have to work. It is for this reason that you must learn how to use them.

SETH - A desirable probability for the New Age

About a new kind of selfhood, The following is from excerpted from Vol. 2 of “The Unknown Reality” a Seth book.   Christian theology sees the end of the world in certain terms, with a grand God coming to reward the good and to punish the wicked. That system of belief allows for no other probability. Some see the end of the world coming as a greater disaster, or envision man finally ruining his planet. Others see periods of peace and advance — and each probability will happen “somewhere.” However, many of my readers, or their offspring, will be involved in a new dimension of selfhood in which consciousness is fully explored and the potentials of the soul uncovered, at least to some extent. 

Human capabilities will be seen as what they are, and a great new period of development will occur, in which all present concepts of selfhood and reality will be literally seen as “primitive superstition.” The species will actually move into a new kind of selfhood. Theories of probabilities will be seen as practical, workable, psychological facts, giving leeway and freedom to the individual, who will no longer feel at the mercy of external events — but will realize instead that he (or she) is their initiator.

In the reality I foresee, however, people will become familiar with far greater aspects of themselves, and bring these into actualization. They will be in touch with their own decisions as they make them. If they become ill, they will do so knowing they chose the condition in order to emphasize certain areas of development, or to minimize others. They will be aware of their options, consciously. The great strength and resiliency of the body will be much better understood; not because medical science makes spectacular discoveries — though it will — but because the minds alliance with the body will be seen more clearly.

In this probability of which I speak, The species will begin to encounter the great challenge inherent in fulfilling the vast untouched potential of the human body and mind. In that probable reality, to which each of you can belong to some extent, each person will recognize his or her inherent power of action and decision, and feel an individual sense of belonging with the physical world that springs up in response to individual desire and belief.   ...mankind will be entering its own new house then, but the physical change will be the result of interior ones, and alterations in the main lines of probabilities.  

SETH on Enlarging our 'God' Concept

An excerpt from “The Unknown Reality” Vol.1 A Seth book by Jane Roberts

The concepts of God that you have, have gone hand-in-hand with the development of your consciousness. The ego, emerging, needed to feel its dominance and control, and so it imagined a dominant god apart from nature. Often nations acted a group egos — each with its own god-picturing, its own concepts of power. Whenever a tribe or a group or a nation decided to embark upon a war, it always used the concept of its god to lead it on.

The god concept then was an aid, and an important one, to man’s emerging ego. To develop its sense of specialization, the ego forgot the great cooperative venture of the earth. If a hunter literally knows his relationship with an animal, he cannot kill it. On deeper levels both animal and man understand the connections. Biologically the man knows he has come from the earth. Some of his cells have been the cells of animals, and the animal knows he will look out through a man’s eyes. The earth venture is cooperative. The slain beast is tomorrow’s hunter. In terms of ego consciousness, however, there were stages of growth; and the god concepts that spoke of oneness with nature were not those that served the ego’s purposes in the line of development as you understand it.

For a while such techniques worked. Always, however, there was the undeniable inner self in the background: man’s dreams, his biological and spiritual integrity, and these in one way or another were always before him.

In your probability you did allow the inner self some freedom. Therefore, the so-called egotistical consciousness was not given complete sway. It remained. flexible enough so that even hidden in its god concepts there were symbols of greater reality. Your system deals with physical manipulability again, and the translation of creativity into physical form. An exterior separation had to occur for a while, in which consciousness forgot, egotistically speaking, that it was a part of nature, and pretended to be apart.

It was known, however — and unconsciously written in the cell and mind and heart — that this procedure would only go so far. When man’s consciousness was sure of itself it would not need to be so narrowly focused. Then the true flowering of humanity's consciousness could begin. Then the ego would expand and become aware of realities it had “earlier” ignored.

You have put yourselves in a position where your consciousness must now become aware of the probable pasts and probable futures, in order to form for yourselves a sane, fulfilling, and creative present.

Ego consciousness must now be familiarized with its roots, or it will turn into something else. You are in a position where your private experience of yourself does not correlate with what you are told by your societies, churches, sciences, archaeology's, or other disciplines. Man’s “unconscious” knowledge is becoming more and more consciously apparent. This will be done under and with the direction of an enlightened and expanding egotistical awareness that can organize the hereto neglected knowledge — or it will be done at the expense of the reasoning intellect, leading to a rebirth of superstition, chaos, and the unnecessary war between reason and intuitive knowledge.

When, at this point now, of mankind’s development, his emerging unconscious knowledge is denied by his institutions, then it will rise up despite those institutions and annihilate them. Cult after cult will emerge, each unrestrained by the use of reason, because reason will have denied the existence of rampant unconscious knowledge, disorganized and feeling only its own ancient force.

If this happens, all kinds of old and new religious denominations will war, and all kinds of ideologies surface. This need not take place, for the conscious mind — basically, now — having learned to focus in physical terms, is meant to expand, to accept unconscious intuitions and knowledge, and to organize these deeply creative principles into cultural patterns.

The great emotion of love has been thus far poorly used, yet it represents even the biological impetus of your Being. Your religions in a large measure have taught you to hate yourselves and physical existence. They have told you to love God, but rarely taught you to experience the gods in yourselves.

In one way or another religions have always followed again, the development of your consciousness, and so they have served its purposes and yours; and they have always reflected, though distorted, those greater inner realities of your being. In historic terms, as you understand them, the “progression” of religion gives you a perfect picture of the development of human consciousness, the differentiation of peoples and nations, and the growth of the ideas of the “individual”.

There is nothing wrong with the concept of an egotistically based individual being: I am not suggesting, therefore, that your individuality is something to be lost, thrown aside, or superseded. Nor am I saying that it should be buried, submerged, or dissolved in a superself. I am not suggesting that its edges be blurred by a powerful unconscious.

I am saying that the individual self must become consciously aware of far more reality; that it must allow its recognition of identity to expand so that it includes previously unconscious knowledge. To do this you must understand, again, that man must move beyond the concepts of one god, ones self, one body, one world, as these ideas are currently understood. You are now poised, in your terms, upon a threshold from which the race can go many ways. There are species of consciousness. Your species is in a time of change. There are potentials within the body’s mechanisms, in your terms, not as yet used. Developed, they can immeasurably enrich the race, and bring it to levels of spiritual and psychic and physical fulfillment. If some changes are not made, the race as such will not endure.

SETH on Impulses

Impulses provide specifications, methods, meanings, definitions. They point toward definite avenues of expression, avenues that will provide the individual with a sense of actualization, natural power, and that will automatically provide feedback, so that the person knows he is impressing his environment for the better.

Those natural impulses, followed, will automatically lead to political and social organizations that become both tools for the individual development and implements for the fulfillment of the society. Impulses then would follow easily, in a smooth motion from private action to social import. When you are taught to block your impulses, and to distrust them, then your organizations become clogged. you are left with vague idealized feelings of wanting to change the world for the better, for example — but you are denied the personal power of your own impulses that would otherwise help direct that idealism by developing your personal abilities. You are left with an undefined, persisting, even tormenting desire to do good, to change events, but without having any means at your disposal to do so. ‘This leads to lingering frustration, and if your ideals are strong the situation can cause you to feel quite desperate.

You may begin to exaggerate the gulf between this generalized ideal and the specific evidences of man’s “greed and corruption” that you see so obviously about you. You may begin to concentrate upon your own lacks, and in your growing sense of dissatisfaction it may seem to you that most men are driven by a complete lack of good intent.

You may become outraged, scandalized — or worse, filled with self-righteousness, so that you begin to attack all those with whom you do not agree, because you do not know how else to respond to your own ideals, or to your own good intent.

SETH on Animal Consciousness #1

From Seth Speaks ~ Session 581, 4/14/71

(Many sessions ago, Seth told us he had a dog personality still here on
Earth. He wouldn't tell us where though. “Do you have any physical fragments of any kind still here on earth?") I do not now. My dog is gone. “
Are animals fragments of human beings?") (Smile.) It is a good question, and you had better give me a moment to explain it clearly.
In one manner of speaking,
you are fragments of your entities. Yet you consider yourselves quite independent and not thrust-off second-handed selves; so dogs and other animals are not simply the manifestation of stray psychic energy on the part of human beings. Animals have varying degrees of self-consciousness, as indeed people do. The consciousness that is within them is as valid and eternal as your own, however, there is nothing to prevent a personality from investing a portion of his own energy into an animal form. This is not transmigration of souls. It does not mean that a man can be reincarnated in an animal. It does mean that personalities can send a portion of their energy into various
kinds of form.

Perhaps reincarnations are over for a given individual, for example, yet within him is still some sense of yearning for the natural earth with which he has so often been involved. So he may project a fragment of his consciousness in such a way into an animal form. When this is done, the earth is then experienced in the way natural for the form. A man is not an animal, then, nor does he invade, say, the body of one. He simply adds some of his energy to that present in the animal, mixing this vitality with the animal's own. This does not mean that all animals are fragments in this manner, however. Animals, as any pet owner knows, have their own personalities and characteristics, and individual ways of perceiving the reality available to them. Some gobble experience. Their consciousness can be immeasurably quickened by contact with friendly humans, and emotional involvement with life is strongly developed. The mechanics of consciousness remain the same. They do not change for animals or men. Therefore there are no limitations set upon the development of any individual consciousness, or growth of any identity.

Consciousness both in the body and without finds its own range, its own level. A dog, then, is not limited to being a dog in other existences. A certain level, again, of consciousness is necessary, a certain kind of knowledge, a certain understanding of energy organization before an identity can manipulate a complicated physical organism. As you know, consciousness has a great tendency to maintain individuality, and yet to join in gestalts at the same time. An animal consciousness after death may form such a gestalt with other such consciousnesses, in which abilities are pooled and the combined cooperation makes possible, for example, a change of species. In these and other cases, however, the innate individuality is not lost but remains indelibly imprinted.”

SETH on Animal Consciousness #2

From The Magical Approach ~ Session 6

You like to think of yourselves, again, as the reasoning animal in terms of your5 species. However, animals do reason. They do not reason in the same areas that you do. In those areas in which they do reason, they understand cause and effect quite well. Their reasoning is applied, however, to levels of activity to which your own reasoning is not applied. Therefore, often animal reasoning is not apparent to you. Animals are curious. Their curiosity is applied to areas in which you seldom apply your own.

The animals possess a consciousness of self, and without the human intellect. You do not need a human intellect to be aware of your own consciousness. Animals , it is true, do not reflect upon the nature of their own identities as man does, but this is because that nature is intuitively comprehended. It is self-evident.

I only want to show you that the sense of identity need not inevitably be coupled with the intellect exclusively. Your intellect is a part of you — a vital, functioning portion of your cognitive processes — but it does not contain your identity.

SETH on Education

Education in your culture is a mixed bag — and education comes not from schools alone, but from newspapers and television, magazines and books, from art and from culture’s own feedback. Generally speaking, for the purposes of this discussion, there are two kinds of education — one focused toward teaching the child to deal with the natural world, and one focused toward teaching the child how to deal with the cultural world. Obviously, these are usually combined. It is impossible to separate them.

Your educational systems, however, for all of their idealism, have largely ended up smothering the natural individual bents and leanings of children, and overemphasized instead the cultural organization. It became more important, then, for the child to conform to the culture rather than to follow its own individual natural leanings. Its own characteristic ways of dealing with nature were frowned upon , so that education does not work with the child’s abilities, but against them. Education then often goes against the grain of the natural person.

This does not mean that some children do not do very well under your system. I do not mean to imply either, that children do not need an education, or that some discipline and direction are not beneficial. Children, however, will concentrate for hours at a time on subject matter and questions that interest them. They are often taken from such pursuits, and their natural habits of concentration suffer as a result.

You are unlearning right now, and discovering that this particular unlearning process is indeed highly educational. You are encountering your own natural knowledge.

SETH on Health

Seth speaking about Jane:

The sensations in his buttocks of heat, even burning at times, and the legs and feet, all represent additional motion and beneficial activity. Sometimes at night the activity might make him feel uncomfortable, but the body is activating itself in certain ways while it is supported [she was in bed]. The Magical Approach - session 7

You may have overall reasons for a particular illness, however, that have nothing to do with crime or punishment, but may instead involve an extraordinary sense of curiosity, and the desire for experience that is somewhat unconventional — usually not sought for — exotic, or in certain terms even grotesque.

Each life, regardless of its nature, possesses its own unique vantage point, and an individual may sometimes take an obscure or a long lasting disease simply to present him or herself with experience that most others would shun. An individual might seek such a vantage point in order to look at the universe in a different fashion, asking questions that perhaps could not be answered if asked from any other position.

Emphasis added — From The Way Toward Health

[Seth says that our thoughts affect our body's cellular memory. That memory is going to then add to the strengthening or weakening of the body and impede its function depending on what our beliefs are. For instance if we believe ourselves weak it will affect our body in that direction]

* "The body behaves as you think it must behave"

From The Nature of Personal Reality

The body is not a tool, to do your mental bidding. Your body is a mental expression physically materialized. ...the body is quite capable of healing itself completely, and with far greater ease than you give it credit for.

Ruburt did not have to do anything in particular, for example, of a conscious nature, except to state his intentions, and the body’s healing mechanisms immediately quickened. This is because he began to take the pressure off, so to speak, and really began to understand the abilities and limitations of the rational mind in its relationship to the body.

The Magical Approach ~ Session 9

And from Session 8 of The Magical Approach:

...the body’s natural healing processes, ..are naturally flowing when he allows himself to trust his life and the support of his own being. ..It is your understanding that set it all into motion. ...your understanding brings you in greater correspondence with the natural energy that is always your own.

From Session 10 of The Magical Approach:

The body’s natural healing processes each day rid people of diseases, repair emotional or bodily illnesses — and such instance go largely unrecorded. Ruburt accepted the magic of a poem, but not the magic of health or mobility, because he was convinced that mobility stood in the way of his other abilities.

If you do have health problems, it is much better to look for their reasons in your immediate experience, rather than assigning them a cause in the distant past. The reasons for maladies are almost always present in current life experience — and even though old events from childhood may have originally activated unhealthy behavior, it is present beliefs that allow old patterns of activity to operate.

If you are concerned about any given problems — mental, emotional or physical — there are certain facts you should hold in mind. You must realize that you do create your own reality because of your beliefs about it. Therefore, try to understand that the particular dilemma of illness is not an event forced upon you by some other agency. Realize that to some extent or another your dilemma or your illness has been chosen by you, and that this choosing has been done in bits and pieces of small, seemingly inconsequential choices. Each choice, however, has led up to your current predicament, whatever its nature.

If you realize that your beliefs form your experience, then you do indeed have and excellent chance of changing your beliefs, and hence your experience.

You can discover what your own reasons are for choosing the dilemma or illness by being very honest with yourself. there is not need to feel guilty since you meant very well as you made each choice — only the choices were built upon beliefs that were beliefs and not facts.

From The Way Toward Health

SETH on Natural Guilt

From The Nature of Personal Reality

Natural guilt then is the species' manifestation of the animals' unconscious corporeal sense of justice and integrity. It means: Thou shalt not kill more than is needed for thy physical sustenance. Period. It has nothing to do with adultery or with sex. It does contain innate issues that apply to human beings, that would have no meaning for other animals in the framework of their experience. Strictly speaking, the translation from biological language to your own is as given in this session; but the finer discrimination reads thusly:

Thou shalt not violate.

The animals do not need such a message, of course, nor can it be literally translated, for your consciousness is flexible and leeway had to be left for your own interpretation.

An outright lie may or may not be a violation. A sex act may or may not be a violation. Not going to church on Sunday is not a violation. Having normal aggressive thoughts is not a violation. Doing violence to your body, or another is a violation. Doing violence to the spirit of another is a violation — but again, because you are conscious beings the interpretations are yours. Swearing is not a violation. If you believe that it is then in your mind it becomes one. Killing another human being is a violation. Killing while protecting your own body from death at the hands of another through immediate contact is a violation. Whether or not any justification seems apparent, the violation exists.

Because you believe that physical self-defense is the only way to counter such a situation then you will say, "If I am attacked by another person, are you telling me that I cannot aggressively counter his obvious intent to destroy me?"

Not at all. You could counter such an attack in several ways that do not involve killing. You would not be in such a hypothetical situation to begin with unless violent thoughts of your own, faced or unfaced, had attracted it to you. But once it is a fact, and according to the circumstances, many methods could be used. Because you consider aggression synonymous with violence, you may not understand that aggressive — forceful, active, mental or spoken — commands for peace could save your life in such a case; yet they could.

Usually there are a variety of physical actions, not involving killing, that would suffice. As long as you believe that violence must be met with violence you court it and its consequences. On individual terms, your own body and mind become the battleground, as does the physical body of the earth in mass terms. Your material form is alive through natural aggression, the poised, forceful and directed action that is the carrier for creativity.

If you cut your finger it bleeds. In so doing the blood clears away any poisons that may have entered. The bleeding is beneficial and the body knows when to stop it. If the flow continued it would be wrong or detrimental in your terms, but the body would not think the blood was bad because it continued its course of action. It would not attempt to cut off all blood, considering it evil. It would instead make whatever adjustments were necessary to bring the emission to a natural halt. Instead you shut up the poisons inside.

When you consider aggressive thoughts wrong, using this analogy, you do not even begin to allow the system to clear itself.

As an accumulation would occur in the flesh, so the same might happen in your mental experience. Physically you could end up with a very serious condition; and mentally and emotionally such clamping down on natural forces can result in "diseased" idea structures [think political correctness] that are isolated from other more healthy concepts. These are like growths —not lacking oxygen, for example, but free access and flow with other portions of your conscious experience.

SETH on The Expanding Universe Theory

FROM SESSION 42 [Don't know what book]

...Until you realize that time as you think of it does not exist in any real terms, then you will not be able to understand the true nature of your universe.

The universe is continually being created. All universes are continually being created, and the appearance of expansion seen by your scientists is distortive for many reasons.

Their time measurements, based on camouflage to begin with, are almost riotously inadequate and bound to give distortive data, since the universe simply cannot be measured in these terms. The universe was not created at any particular time, but neither is it expanding into nowhere like an inflated balloon that grows forever larger, at least not along the lines now being considered. The expansion is an illusion, based among other things upon inadequate time measurements, upon the limited cause and effect theories; and yet in some manners the universe could be said to be expanding, but with entirely different connotations than are usually used.

This is much too difficult to go into deeply now. It might help you to reread the little material on mental enclosures. Expansion as you see is a word that implies movement or enlargement into space, and space itself in the way the word is usually used, is a camouflage. Space, I have said, is the Fifth dimension, but you have seen that this true space has little in common with the space that you usually think of. That is, fifth dimensional space is not an emptiness to be filled, being itself alive and vibrant, and changing its outer nature according to the plane which is composed of it.

Therefore the expanding universe implies a universe expanding in a more or less empty space, and this is not true. The phenomena that are given as evidence of this kind of expanding universe are the result of camouflage instruments, distortive ideas of time, and the resulting cause and effect theory.

Back on the subject of the so-called expanding universe: The appearance (of expansion) is a distortion. I have mentioned in the past that everything does have a form or a tissue capsule and field of energy. These forms vary on different planes, are visible or invisible according to your own situation. A form that may be perceived by you as solid may be perceived merely as an electrical unit in another plane, or as color on a third.

The Very Practical Aspects of the Intellects Beliefs
And Their strength in Drawing Experience To You

The Magical Approach ~ Session 7

Your species shares with the other species a feeling of kinship for its kind. There is a great give-and-take of ideas. You end up, then, with a consensus, generally speaking, as to what a reasonable picture of agreed-upon reality is. Your system has frowned upon many experiences, considering them eccentric behavior in an adverse fashion, since your belief systems have so regimented behavior, and so narrowly defined sanity. The intellect, I want to stress, is socially oriented. It is peculiarly suited, of course, to react to cultural information. It wants to see the world as it is seen by the minds of others. Through that kind of action it helps form your cultural environment, the civilization for which you are justly proud.

The intellect, then, helps your species translate its own natural purposes and intents — the purposes and intents of the natural person — into their “proper” cultural context, so that those abilities the natural person possesses can benefit the civilization of its time. Those purposes and intents literally change the world. The intellect’s expectations and intents spontaneously and automatically trigger the proper bodily mechanisms to bring about the necessary environmental interactions, and your intent as expressed through your intellect directs your experience of the world.

I am speaking about the intellect here for our discussion, but remember that it is everywhere cushioned also. There are backup systems, in other words. If the intellect believes that the world is a threat to existence, then that belief will alter its intents, of course, and therefore the body’s activities. The beliefs of the intellect operate then as powerful suggestions, particularly when the intellect identifies with those beliefs, so that there is little distance between the intellect and the beliefs that it holds as true.

I am doing my best to explain the very practical aspects of the intellects' beliefs, and their strength in drawing experience to you....Your beliefs bring you into correspondence with the elements likely to lead to their affirmation. They draw from Framework 2 all of the necessary ingredients. They elicit from other people behavior that is in keeping with those beliefs.

You get what you concentrate upon, and your beliefs are largely responsible for those areas in which you concentrate. There are no magical methods, only natural ones that you use all of the time, although in some cases you use them for beliefs that you take for truths, when instead they are quite defective assumptions.

...he began with his intellect to pile up evidence that could in one way or another bring about a different, more beneficial experience. He did this by recognizing the way he had earlier been building up the picture in the old manner, by collecting all the evidence that fitted it. He used the same process, only for a more beneficial picture, and the process works. You have only to become aware of it.

Your experience will follow your concentration and belief and expectation. The mind is a great discriminator. It can use its reasoning to bring about almost any possible experience within your framework.

SETH on Dark Thoughts

“Your thoughts are. You may approve or disapprove of them, in the way that you think of a storm, for example. Left alone, your thoughts are as various, magnificent, trivial, frightening, or glorious as a hurricane, a flower, a flood, a toad, a raindrop or the fog. Your thoughts are perfectly themselves. Left alone, they come and go.

You with your conscious mind are to discriminate among those thoughts as to which ones you want to form into your system of beliefs, but in so doing you are not to pretend blindness. You may at times wish that a rainy day were a sunny one, but you do not stand at the window and deny that the rain is falling, or that the air is cold and the sky dark.

Because you accept the rain as a present reality does not mean either, that you must believe that all days are stormy, and make that obvious misconception a part of your beliefs about reality. So you do not have to pretend that a “dark” thought doesn’t exist. You do not have to take it as fact that all of your thoughts would be murky, left alone and try to hide them.

Some people are afraid of snakes, even of the most harmless variety, and blind to their beauty and place in the universe. Some are afraid of certain thoughts, and so are oblivious to their beauty and their place in mental life.

Since you have all kinds of thoughts there are reasons for having them, as you have all kinds of geography. Within your reality it is as foolish to deny the existence of certain thoughts as it would be, say, to pretend that deserts do not exist. In following such a course you deny dimensions of experience and diminish your reality. This does not mean that you have to collect what you think of as negative thoughts, any more that it means that you should spend a month in a desert if you do no like them. It does mean that within nature as you understand it, nothing is meaningless or to be pretended out of existence.”

“Normal aggressiveness flows with strong pattterns of energy, giving motive power to all of your thoughts whether you consciously regard them as positive or negative, good or bad. The same thrusting creative surge brings them all forth. When you consider a thought good you ususally do not question it. You allow it its life and follow through. Usually if you regard a thought as bad or beneath you, or if you are ashamed of it, then you try to deny it, stop its motion and hold it back. You cannnot restrain energy, although you may think you can. You simply collect it, whereupon it grows, seeking its fulfillment.”

....Tell yourself that you refuse to be cowed by

ideas that after all belong to you, but are not you.”

From The Nature of Personal Reality, a Seth book channeled by Jane Roberts.

SETH - The Sethites

There was once a god who was not a god—who was not a god, for you are dealing with legends.

There was a god in ancient Egypt, and his name was Seth, and he was disreputable. And he threw aside establishments, and whenever other gods rose up and said, “We are the truth, we are pure and we are holy,” this disreputable god stood up, and with a voice like thunder, said; “You are nincompoops!” And the other gods did not like him, and whenever they set up their altars, he came like thunder, but playfully, and tossed the altars asunder, and he said “Storms are natural, and good, and a part of the earth, even as placid skies are. Winds are good, Questions are good. Males and females are good. Even gods and demons are good, if you must believe in demons. But structures are limited!”

And so this god, who was not a god, called Seth, went about kicking apart the structures, and he gathered about him others who kicked apart the structures. And they were themselves, whether they were male or female. Whether they thought of themselves as good or bad, or summer or winter, or as old or as young, they were creators. They were questioners.

And whenever another personality set itself up and said “I am the god before you, and my word is law”, then Seth went about saying, “You are a nincompoop” and began again to kick apart the structures. And so you are yourselves, in your way, all Seth's, for you kick apart the structures, and you are the black sheep of the religions, and the black sheep of the scientists, and the black sheep of the physicians, and the black sheep of your mothers and your fathers, and your sisters and your brothers.

And yet, the mothers and the fathers and the sisters and the brothers listen, for they do not have the courage to be the black sheep, and they quail in the voice of the thunder that is so playful, though they do not understand it because they equate loudness with violence, and they think that female is passive, and the male is aggressive; and that war and violence must then erupt from the reality of mankind.

And so you are, indeed, all black sheep of the universe, and Sethites have always been the black sheep of the universe!

Now, to be a Sethite, you do not have to follow this Seth, You simply follow the Seth in yourself, and that Seth in yourself is a questioner, and an explorer, and a creator. And the Seth in yourself knows when to passively flow with the wind that blows through the window above a summer town, and when to go against the force of your environment. You were Sethites before you met me, and there was a Seth before I was Seth, and the spirit follows through the ages as you know them.

SETH on Sunny Thoughts

  from The Way Toward Health

It may sound very simplistic to tell you that you must have sunny thoughts as well as rays of the physical sun in order to be healthy — but sunny thoughts are as biologically necessary to your well-being as are the rays of the sun that shines in the sky. Even as infants, then, you are predisposed naturally toward certain feelings, thoughts and attitudes that are meant to insure your healthy survival and emergence into adulthood. These are actually composed of inbred psychological information as necessary and vital to your life as the data transmitted by your genes and chromosomes. Indeed, these inbred, inner psychological predisposition's are all-important if the information carried by your genes and chromosomes is to be faithfully followed. ....


These inborn leanings or attitudes can roughly be translated as follows.


1. I am an excellent creature, a valuable part of the universe in which I exist.


2. My existence enriches all other portions of life,

even as my own being is enhanced by the rest of creation.


3. It is good, natural, and safe for me to grow and develop and use

my abilities, and by so doing I also enrich all other portions of life.


4. I am eternally couched and supported by the universe of which I am

a part, and I exist whether or not that existence is physically expressed.


5. By nature I am a good deserving creature, and

all of life’s elements and parts are also of good intent.


6. All of my imperfections, and all of the imperfections of other creatures,

are redeemed in the greater scheme of the universe in which I have my being.


Those attitudes are inbred in the smallest microscopic portions of the body — a part of each atom and cell and organ, and they serve to trigger all of the body’s responses that promote growth and fulfillment. Infants are not born with an inbred fear of their environment, or of other creatures. They are instead immersed in feelings of well-being, vitality, and exuberance, They take it for granted that their needs will be met, and that the universe is well-disposed toward them. They feel a part of their environment.

They do not come into life with feelings of rage, or anger, and basically they do not experience doubts or fears. Birth is experienced in terms of self-discovery, and includes the sensation of selfhood gently rising and unfolding from the secret heart of the universe. ....

The inborn leanings and attitudes that we have been discussing should ideally remain with you for the rest of your life, leading you to express your abilities, and finding fulfillment as your knowledge expands through experience.The same feelings and beliefs should also ideally help you die with a sense of safety, support and assurance. While these inbred psychological supports never leave you entirely, they are often diminished by beliefs encountered later in life, that serve to undermine the individual’s sense of safety and well-being.

SETH on the Cryptid: Bigfoot

From The Way Towards Heath

Jane and Robert one day had watched an old rerun of the television show called..’In Search Of’ With Leonard Nimoy of Star Trek fame. Because of their inner interest in the subject, here is what Seth had to share about BIGFOOT in the Jan. 10th 1984 Session.

Now: I bid you a fond good afternoon. (Good afternoon Seth)

A few comments:  There are many, many species that man has not discovered, in all the categories of life from insects onward.

There are multitudinous species of viruses and so forth that man has not encountered and recognized, and there are connections between viruses and other species of living matter that remain unknown. There are indeed two different kinds of upward-walking mammals, much like your own species, but much larger, and with infinitely keener senses. They are indeed amazingly swift creatures, and through scent alone they are aware of the presence of man when any member of your species is at all in the immediate area –standing, say, at least several miles away. Vegetable matter is a main diet, though often supplemented by insects, which are considered a delicacy.

They have, for that matter, devised many ingenious insect traps, so that hundreds or more can be caught, for many are needed since insects are so small. These traps are often constructed on trees, in the bark, in such a fashion that the tree gum itself is used to trap the insects. The traps appear to be part of the tree itself, so as to protect them.

These creatures do indeed remember, but their remembering operates extremely rapidly – a kind of almost instantaneous deduction that comes as sense data is interpreted. That is, received and interpreted almost at once, or simultaneously.

Offspring do not occur until the individuals are well past the age that you would consider normal for breeding. Otherwise the procedure is the same. With some territorial variation, such creatures reside in many of the wild areas on your planet, though their overall population is very small – altogether, perhaps, several thousand. They rarely congregate in large groups, but do have a family and tribal-like organization, with at the very most twelve adults in any given area. As offspring are added, the groups break up again, for they know well that in larger numbers they would be much more easy to discover.

They all use tools of one kind or another, and live indeed in close concord with the animals. There is no competition between them and animals, for example, and they are not basically aggressive, though they could be extremely dangerous if they were cornered, or if their young were attacked.

They grow quite sluggish in wintertime, in very cold climates, and their temperature drops, as is characteristic of hibernating animals, except that their temperature is more sensitive to daily variations, so that on some winter days they can forage for food very well, while on the other hand they may hibernate for even weeks on end.

They have a keen understanding of nature, and of natural phenomena. Language is not developed to any great degree, for their sensual ordinary equipment is so pure and swift that it almost becomes a language of its own, and does not need any elaboration. Those senses possess their own variance, so that without any word such as ‘now’ or ‘then,’ the creatures are able to know quite accurately how many living creatures are in the vicinity, how long they have been there – and their experience with time is one that follows the seasons in such a way that they have formed a wordless, fairly accurate picture of the world, including navigational direction.

I am mentioning this material because of the program you saw today, and also because I knew of your interest.

after the session was over Jane said she did not want to mislead me, but that the traps (on trees) reminded her of spider webs, that way the insects became trapped in them.

SETH on Excellence

In a session of Jane Roberts ESP class.

Excellence! There are no standards but your own! You cannot compare yourself against others. For your own abilities are like no others, and dimensions of your own greatness cannot fit in the standards of others. But you know what excellence means within yourself, and it means truth to the heart of yourself.

There are some things that you know it means. It means not lying. It means not lying to yourself; not being afraid to use your own abilities; not being afraid to be the excellent self that you are.

Excellence does not mean false humility. It means not mean inflated, artificial pride that sets you apart from all others, for you cannot set yourselves apart from all others. You are, because of your nature, apart from all others, and everlastingly unique—while everlastingly a part of all others.

Excellence means that in your relationships, you face each other honestly, and do not pretend. It means that you do not use excuses. It means that you do not hide your abilities from yourself. It means that you take advantage of your abilities, and do not deny them, and that you expect things of yourself, and do not look to others for their answers; that you do not dribble away your energy.

It means that you know your own footing and do not lean upon another, and do not accept shifting grounds, but make your own integrity.

It means that you accept the responsibility for yourself and that you go your way and use your abilities, trusting that others will do the same.

It means that when you have the ability to create, you use those abilities; and do not judge according to other peoples’ concepts of what you create, but according to your own ideas, and the intuitive knowledge of your being, that what you create and what comes from you is good.

It means that you do not allow yourself to be used by others, and then use that as an excuse. You are your own being. Luxuriate in that!

It means that you don’t over pamper your children; that you allow yourself spontaneity.

It means that you try to separate your beliefs from the beliefs of others and of your culture, and that with all your sense of adventureness and humor, you nevertheless question your ideas of what is practical and what is not.

There is greatness in each of you. Don't ever snicker when someone tells you that they want to be great, or you want to be great, and you know what that means, in the terms of your culture. For to be great in those terms is always to go beyond, to challenge even the self that you know, to become familiar with other portions of yourself that you sense, and to manifest them within your own experience now.

SETH - Weights Upon The Mind of Humankind

  From The Magical Approach ~ Session 14

Previous to psychology’s entrance,
before psychology mapped the acceptable or forbidden, the dangerous or safe compartments of the self, man used the word “soul” to include his own entire complexity. That word was large enough to contain man’s experience. It was large enough to provide room for conventional and unconventional, bizarre and ordinary states of mind and experience. It was roomy enough to hold images of reality that were physically perceived or psychologically perceived.

Now the church finally placed all of the condemnation of its religious laws against certain psychological and mystical experiences — not because it did not consider them realities, of course, but precisely because it recognized too well the disruptive influence that, say, revelationary experience could have upon a world order that was based upon a uniform dogma.

“Witches” were not considered insane, for example, or deranged, for their psychological beliefs fit in only too well with those of the general populace. They were considered evil instead. The vast range of psychological expression, however, had some kind of framework to contain it. The saint and the sinner each had access to great depths of possible heroism or despair. Psychological reality, for all of the religious dangers placed upon it, was anything but a flat-surfaced experience. It was in fact because the church so believed in that great range of psychological activity possible that it was so dogmatic and tireless in trying to maintain order.

Unfortunately, with the development of a scientific era, a development occurred that need not have happened. As I have mentioned before, science’s determination to be objective almost immediately brought about a certain artificial shrinking of psychological reality. What could not be proven in the laboratory was presumed not to exist at all.

Anyone who experienced “something that could not exist” was therefore to some extent or another deluded or deranged. There is no doubt that the accepted dimensions of psychological reality began to shrink precisely at the time that modern psychology began. Modern psychology was an attempt to make man conform to the new scientific world view.

It was an attempt to fit man within the picture of evolution, and to manufacture a creature whose very existence was somehow pitted against itself. Evolutionary man, with Darwinian roots, could not be a creature with a soul. It had to have hidden its psychological roots the bloody remnants of the struggle for survival that now cast it in its uneasy role. There is no doubt that the church cast the soul in a position of stress, caught as it was between its heavenly source and original sin — but there was a sense of psychological mobility involved, one that saw continued existence after death.

The new psychology shut off mobility after death, while giving each individual an unsavory primitive past heritage — a heritage genetically carried, that led finally only to the grave. Psychological activity was scaled down in between life and death, then, even while the possibility of any after-death experience was considered the most unreasonable and unintellectual of speculations.

Any man might rise in your democracy from a poor peasant’s son to be the President. Outcasts might be come the socially prominent. The unlettered might become highly educated. The idea of achieving greatness, however, was considered highly suspect. The self was kept in bounds. Great passion, or desire or intent — or genius — did not fit the picture.

Now some people would not fit into that mold. They would take what they could from your technology, but in conscious and spontaneous ways they retaliated — and still do — by exaggerating all of those human tendencies that your society has held down so well. If you can have reason without faith, then indeed, for example, you will see that there can be faith without reason. When human experience becomes shrunken in such a fashion— compressed — then in a fashion it also explodes at both ends, you might say.

You have atrocious acts committed, along with great heroisms, but each are explosive, representing sudden releases of withheld energies that have in other ways been forbidden, and so man’s mass psyche expresses itself sometimes like explosive fireworks, simply because the release of pressure is necessary.

Even your poor misguided moral/religious organizations is saying in its fashion to the scientifically-oriented society: “How is faith not real, then? We’ll change your laws with it. We’ll turn it into power — political power. What will you say then? We have been laughed at for so long. We will see who laughs now.”

Fanaticism abounds, of course, because the human tendencies and experiences that have been denied by the mainline society erupt with explosive force, where the tendencies themselves must be accepted as characteristics of human experience. …

I have been very gentle in my treatment of your mores and institutions — for I do not want you to be against your world, but for a more fulfilling one.

SETH on Extra-Sensory Perception (ESP)

The study of so-called extrasensory perception is now considered an isolated bizarre domain, unrelated to other fields of knowledge. The reason for this is that the data that would connect such a study to all other fields of interest is not recognized. The study of the inner workings of the self is closely connected to the study of the universe as it exists in all its levels of reality.

The pieces to the puzzle are at mankind's fingertips, but he has put together an awkward, ill-fitting miniature model universe of a puzzle with which he is afraid to part. If the physical universe existed on a physical field only, indeed this would be the greatest miracle of all, for it would be impossible. The inner vitality of which we have so often spoken, and whose ways I have described, this inner vitality is the force which itself forms the physical universe, and without which no such manifestation would be possible. Yet this inner self, this inner vitality, is one of the main clues which man refuses to recognize, calling it an unreasonable assumption, but not willing to examine it for those characteristics which show it to be the most reasonable and logical of phenomena.